Crying in My Jacuzzi with Dana Balicki

Wands on Wands on Wands: A Tarot Reading for the Collective with Mary Evans of Spirit Speak

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What sparks of guidance illuminate your path through uncertain times? When chaos swirls around us, where do we turn for direction?

This episode takes us on a magical journey down a wishing well (!!) to meet artist and oracle Mary Evans (Spirit Speak), who offers a revelatory tarot reading addressing three vital questions: 

  • How can we use our creativity to support ourselves and the collective?
  • What specifically do we, as individuals, need to focus on in uncertainty?  
  • And what helps conjure the courage to challenge systems both within and around us?

The cards reveal wisdom about pacing, perseverance, and the power of wishes. Wands appear repeatedly, signaling the centrality of creative fire to our current moment. We're reminded that finding courage begins in small alignments with our deepest truths, and that acknowledging when we're overwhelmed and need help isn't weakness but wisdom. Through it all runs the thread of "slow down medicine" – the subversive act of attending to unseen realms in a materialistic world.

Mary Evans is a tarot reader, artist, and creator of six self-published tarot and oracle decks. With over a decade of experience, she blends tarot, spirituality, hypnosis, and art to explore the subconscious and navigate change. In this episode, she reads tarot for the collective, offering insight and reflection to help process the times at hand with clarity and resilience. Her work has been recognized by Vogue, Oprah Magazine, and the Whitney Museum.


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Speaker 1:

Crying in my Jacuzzi. The times we are living in are chaotic. We know this. We feel this chaotic, we know this. We feel this. So many of us are dysregulated, deeply in the uncertainty. But I want to also offer. The future is unwritten and in honoring our agency, we must remember that our stories, the stories we tell ourselves, the stories we tell each other, the stories that we amplify, we are making new stories all the time. When we are in uncertainty and when we are trying to be more conscious and more aware of the stories that we are telling, we need guidance. All of us do.

Speaker 1:

And the good news is, my dear, is that guidance is all around us. Maybe it's in nature, maybe it's in your own body, maybe it's just a sense and connection to what you call resonance, what you call God, what you call goddess, what you believe about the nature of being and reality. Maybe it's your cats, maybe it's sacred texts, maybe it's divination tools, card decks, maybe other humans, maybe the sky, maybe trees, maybe the dirt, maybe the fungal network singing beneath the soil, maybe interdimensional beings that you communicate with on the regular, maybe through your Akashic Records practice. I don't know, it doesn't really matter, it's yours. So, wherever you turn for guidance, know that you are practicing slow down medicine because you have to slow down to ask, to listen, to trust, to act, to be curious, to be willing to receive, to be vulnerable, to ask big questions and to say I don't know exactly what the answer is. But I'm here, I'm paying attention and where we put our attention matters and we can be very subversive with our attention. And I'm going to say, in the world of materialism, using our attention to attend to the unseen realms is incredibly subversive. Rebels. Rebels To lean into the mystery willingly instead of just muppeting around in the chaos and uncertainty, but to choose it agentially. What a radical, beautiful act of magical agency.

Speaker 1:

And so I am called right now to take us on a little trip to visit one of my dear friends, the brilliant Mary Evans. Some of y'all might know her as Spirit Speak, the designer, creator, artist, oracle behind Spirit Speak Tarot and Oracle Dex. She's a sculptor, she's a video artist. I mean oof, I can't wait for you to meet her. We actually have to travel down a wishing well to find her, but it's going to be great. Come on, all right, we're just going to's gonna be great. Come on, all right, we're just gonna hop in this bucket. Come on in. Plenty of room Gonna lower down. Oh, I actually love the smell of mildew. It's very sentimental for me. Okay, we're gonna drop all the way down.

Speaker 1:

Okay, hold your breath. We are gonna travel through this little twinkly portal right here and I think that'll take us to her spot.

Speaker 1:

Ah, yes, here she is. Let me present to you the brilliant oracular, mary Evans. How wonderful it is to all be together here in the Jacuzzi-verse, for all of you out there in crybaby land. We're in mary evans, um gorgeous studio, and it is full of magic and wonder and I mean there is so. I mean, look at all of that. What are those? Oh, collection of shells. There's seashells. Oh, are those the little orbs? Yeah, ugh, seashells, orbs portals.

Speaker 4:

Wish machines and wishing wells, oh my god wish machines and wishing wells.

Speaker 4:

So should I pull some cards? Yeah, I think that would be great. Normally the way that I do this is I develop a spread based on what we're going to be looking into. I make a custom spread, so I normally put the name at the top, so I'm just going to write collective and then I try and find maybe one or two or three focus areas. What I have here are like kind of three focus areas, but this one's kind of a division of the first but looking into collective avenues of creativity or what's specifically useful to focus on creativity or what's specifically useful to focus on, and then thinking in creative ways or thinking creatively for each other, like adaptive creativity.

Speaker 4:

That's almost like a problem solving creativity I feel, whereas this one is more like what is you, what is like maybe mentally helpful to like focus on, like everyone's well-being, maybe. And then the last one what helps conjure courage to challenge systems, and we'll look specifically about within and also outside. So that's kind of how I like to organize. Great, okay, yeah, anything else you want to?

Speaker 1:

add. I mean, I could do this all day long. We're like here is our 37 point spread, get ready.

Speaker 4:

So I'm gonna use two tarot decks and an oracle deck do you hear that cry, baby? It's our future being divine, the present being divine, yeah so normally I ask whoever I'm giving a reading to if I can have permission to speak to their helpful and benevolent guides. So I'll just say that, like, anyone who gives me that permission can accept the reading as it is, and if that's not feeling good, they can like move along.

Speaker 4:

I guess yeah and not not have to take in the messages. Yeah, I would like the permission to speak for helpful and benevolent guides for the collective y'all, there's already a lot of cards going this is my thing that I do, I love and, like I'm an artist, so I love the visuals.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, on um, that's part of what I love about this practice and um, so I love seeing all the images, like talking to each other, like I think that everyone has their own practice and sometimes like a really simple read can be the best thing, um, but I do pull a lot of cards, it's so great and I'll take a.

Speaker 1:

I'll take a photo and put it in the show notes so folks can um, can see once we've flipped them all over so we have our different sections here and I'm just going to start pulling and seeing what we have here.

Speaker 4:

I might actually go one at a time and then look at them all together. So here's the first kind of section that we have avenues of creativity and what's useful to focus on. Oh, so the way that I pulled this was some cards for information and then a crossing card, which for me, I normally read as something that might be in the way or that's nudging for attention or a block potentially, and then a tool card, so something that's useful to help move that block out of the way. And in our general read here. I love it because we're talking about wishes and I'm making a lot of work about wishes, but the wish card, which is a birthday cake and a rainbow- which, by the way, these are all Mary's cards.

Speaker 1:

All the links will be in the show notes, but these are. These are all of her from her own creative heart all my babies yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4:

So, and I only use one deck that had color in this reading, and so I don't really read in traditional ways where, like I read things upside down or this and that I more read, like just visually in general.

Speaker 4:

So the fact that the one card that has color in the center is the wish card, and it's like illuminating to me to the rest of the reading. But the general cards that are coming up are the king of pentacles with the five of wands, which is kind of an intense combo. Ultimately, like what I want to say, for like what's useful and avenues of creativity, is to try your best to pick your battles as far as like getting burnt out with energy, and I'm like speaking to myself right now.

Speaker 3:

Oh, yes, yes, yes yes, this is perfect.

Speaker 4:

The five of wands I normally see, is like a bit of a hothead character of like just easily inflamed, and so I also want to like put that message out of trying to do whatever you can do to mellow out the inflammation in the mind and in the daily life, because it's just, it's not that it's not useful, it's just that it can easily lead to burnout along with the king of pentacles, and I always think of the king of pentacles as like, what do you want me to do?

Speaker 4:

daddy pentacles are of the earth realm and the material realm and I think of him as like someone who can sell dog shit and make it amazing and popular because they're so savvy and wise in ways of the earth. So those two it's about like using your, your resources, not just materially, but using your resources in wise ways, or being mindful of where you're putting your energy. Self-delegation when it comes to the long game, yes, and the King of Pentacles has like a lot of energy and a lot of force and a lot of wisdom and that sort of creativity of inventions on earth. Yeah. But then the Five of Wands is pent up with a lot of sort of like quick, hot energy finding a good way to find a pace. But also I love that the wish card is on top of them because I was thinking about wishes.

Speaker 4:

As someone who grew up doing a lot of prayer, I think of wish as prayer, without penance, without any sort of other structural contingencies, without any sort of other structural contingencies, and it's just this pure, unattached inkling or desire. So it is a sense of hopefulness to me, like whimsy, that, along with more of that heavy work of self-delegation and monitoring your energy, is, don't forget, to just make wishes. Don't forget that you can dream impossible dreams. You know, for yourself, for the world, for others. There's no harm in making wishes.

Speaker 2:

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Speaker 1:

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Speaker 4:

What is crossing or blocking is another wands card, the knight of wands and I always see the knights, you know they're traditionally on horseback, so there are things that are coming in, or like movement and wands being the suit of higher learning, creativity and physical movement is again that tension of wanting things to move quickly, wanting things to burst through and not maybe having channels yet. But the tool or like the remedy or helpful friend that can kind of move this out of the way is the ace of wands. More wands, lots of fire going on, but the ace of wands is like pure light bulb of creativity, pureness of having a brilliant idea without needing to have infrastructure for it just yet. One way to deal with frustrations of things not feeling like they're moving fast enough, or like things aren't coming through enough, or if things feel stuck, is to try and shift focus to pureness of creation or idea brewing, without how it all necessarily falls into place in that exact moment, if that makes sense uh, yeah, it makes all the sense in the whole world.

Speaker 1:

this is exactly what I need to hear, and I will be the channel conduit for crybabies everywhere, because I heard some serious slowdown medicine challenges inside of that. All the things might not be coming together, but letting the brilliance, luminosity, illumination of the idea, of the wish, of the desire.

Speaker 4:

Yes, that's what I'm hearing from this.

Speaker 4:

Yes, and I think of like in. In tarot we have like the suit starts with the page and goes up to the king, and a lot of times I think about that in terms of age, like page is the youth and king is like the most established, most like hardened and also wise and there's value in both. But something that the youth has, I mean a lot of, a lot of this is like coming up against infrastructure and old guard, which is more of that like established area, but the youth is not concerned with how things are necessarily done and that's how they invent and I work with kids so I connect with that energy of pure light bulb, of just exuberance of invention or thinking about things differently, because they're looking at things with fresh eyes, and so that's part of that ace of wands, is like being in the place of trying to see things with fresh eyes and just letting that happen without being weighed down by all the channels that you might perceive they have to go through.

Speaker 1:

I feel like we're sitting in like your studio, feels like everything you just said, like sitting inside of the light bulb. It's like so fun in here and I just see all of that in everything you all.

Speaker 4:

I wish you could see what's happening it's nice to have visitors in here, because I'm in here alone a lot, so it's like nice to have friends, oh.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, it's a very fun place to be it really is, and literally surrounded by little candles and little wishes. And not surprised that these are the messages coming through.

Speaker 4:

Yes, and then this is the further secondary message of that first section Thinking in creative ways, like creative for each other, adaptive, problem-solving creativity, and the way that this is structured is like a general card and what I call a bridge. It's like how we get to somewhere else and what that somewhere else is, and then more details on that. Again, we have the king of of pentacles, who is your daddy and what does he do? Very interesting oh hi second time.

Speaker 4:

Oh, because we got the two decks. Yes, yeah, which is fun about using like multiple tarot decks is that the same card can come up and you're kind of like, okay, you're really making yourself appear more wands. The general as far as thinking in creative ways for each other, adaptive creativity and problem solving. We are starting with the three of wands, which is like uh, hate to say it, because I I I feel also the urge to like, want things to happen quickly, to feel security, and the three of wands is really like the long game card for me and you can see visually it's like literate, quite literally the long the long road.

Speaker 1:

This is the long haul. This is what I'm saying all the time we are in the long haul.

Speaker 4:

And you know, the wands are like higher learning and and wisdom as well. So along that way we're like picking up wands, we are learning more things. I think about it like a good analogy, for the three of wands is academia. You're in like your first year, but there's so much more to go and you're taking on so much and you're like, oh, my god, my brain is exploding. But then you, you have all this time and energy to still kind of put in the bridge card.

Speaker 4:

Another wands card is the six of wands, which is like traditional victory cards. That's interesting as being a bridge to getting to where we would be beneficially going, which is the offerings card, which is an oracle card here about actions without direct reward, as many offerings can be. And then we have our friend the king of pentacles here again. So it's interesting, the six of wands being this bridge card to the offerings. It's like, I think, that celebrating whatever small victories we may have, um, especially in each other's like lives and around, and taking note of when things can be positive or when things can feel like they're an accomplishment, and the more that we can acknowledge what are victories like in ourselves, in our own lives in the world around us. I think we'll be able to shift in that headspace of just like. I'm not necessarily looking for instant gratification, I'm just looking to do something that feels aligned with myself. And then our King of Pentacles showing back up, like as a reminder, sort of of this inventive wisdom on the earth realm.

Speaker 4:

To me, the King of Pentacles showing up in the last like procession here is as this path continues to move on, and if this shift in thinking can continue to happen, then maybe that empowerment of like what you actually have the power to do might click into place. I think, feeling empowered with what we actually have ability to do in our immediate and outward, like physical realities. So there's that, there's that nb, and then our last section here, which is what helps conjure courage to challenge systems and we have within and outside of that. So let's see what we have here Another little flame, lots of little fiery flames.

Speaker 1:

And we love wands.

Speaker 4:

We are wands everywhere, so that could be interesting just to meditate on in general for the overview of the reading, of how like the reading is a lot about creativity and so much wands showed up here, so that could be just like a good energy to work with and wands again for here, so that could be just like a good energy to, and wands again for the cry babies listening.

Speaker 4:

Wands are the suit of creativity, of fire, of higher learning and of physical like, force and activity. Yeah, yeah, I mean that tracks. And we have spark in the center of this reading. I think of the spark, the snap and the light bulb and I just clicked in kind of energy exuberance, of being gifted an idea. Let's kind of start with the within section and then we'll move to outside of ourselves.

Speaker 4:

Within we have the king of wands and also the seven of wands, again more wands, and in this depiction of the king of wands you can see, um, that this wand is like moving mountains and like moving like. It's sort of to me this card of harnessing a lot of endurance, power to change reality. Um, again, the kings are sort of that like elevated, wizened and hardened and maybe cracked. I'm so old, they're so deeply known within the realms of creativity and movement and higher learning that they can really navigate those spaces with a lot of excellence and so they don't really have fear around doing things because they kind of just like see what maybe could be big mountains as not so heavy or serious. The king of wands, as an archetype, maybe, doesn't hesitate to take things on because they are familiar in that world of things moving and changing all the time. The King of Wands, I feel like, does have that sense of being able to channel fire, to channel fire appropriately, move mountains without like burning out, breaking their back over it you know um.

Speaker 4:

That's a lesson or, yeah, overdoing it, or um, which is interesting, like quickly to look over what helps conjure courage on the outside. We have the ten of wands, which actually is not like opposite of the king of wands, but in that aspect of being able to be balanced within, like your physical and creative efforts, the ten of wands is like just the card of like you just took on too much.

Speaker 4:

It's like it's time to phone a friend hello, I need help like you don't have the answers, you don't have the energy, you don't have the nothing. You dropped it all. It's like you were carrying it all and you were like I'm fine, I'm just carrying it all.

Speaker 1:

Oh, look, and there's even on the card. It's all of the, all of the ones are on the ground, and then there are little.

Speaker 4:

There's crying it's just like I can't hold it anymore, I can't push anymore, I don't have any more energy. Every card for me, there's no like negative card or card where it's just like, oh, this is just the shit pile card. There's always something there to be useful or helpful. So the Ten of Wands, even though it's like this card of overwhelm which is like, oh my God, it's it also for me, it's like it's time to just accept. I dropped all the plates on the ground. I'm going to call my friend and see if they have plates that I can use or whatever.

Speaker 4:

Like I took on too much there. It's all too much and I just need to ask, ask for help. So what helps conjure courage to challenge systems on the outside is like, yeah, helping each other out and also being honest about where you're at and asking for for help, also knowing those limits of how much you're taking on internally, channeling that king of wands that has a lot of their own internal infrastructure for how much they take on, and like how they exert their effort. So it's like learning, you know, just learning, just learning, yeah, learning how to exert really is how I feel about this section of the reading so far, and then the spark in the middle. So, again, always returning to the wish, the spark, the offerings.

Speaker 3:

My deepest, truest wish.

Speaker 4:

These little oracle cards, I feel like, are like don't forget to reunite with what is unburdened within yourself, if that makes sense.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 4:

Creativity isn't just for artists, which I think is like a huge misconception. Creativity is problem solving. Creativity is imagining pathways and choices. It can sometimes be a remedy for apathy because it gives a sense of there being possibility. The spark, the wish and the offering I do think are important parts to root back into amongst all the other stuff that's still here but pathways. And then we have a few more cards on the within and outside, and the other card about how to find courage to challenge systems within is the seven of wands, and for me the seven of wands is sort of a universal push to commit to something.

Speaker 4:

Um, and in this visual it's a house that's being built and it's also like raining on the foundation and it's like, uh well, like, do I want to keep building in this storm? Like, how committed am I to this house I'm building or do I want to just like, move on and do something else? That push of like, are you willing to keep going? Are you willing to push past, move through? And yeah, I don't think there's a wrong answer there. But as far as like how to find courage within when you've really committed to something and you put your all there and you feel that there's no mistakes in doing that effort. Yeah right, yeah, but then if you're not sure, it can get really messy if it, if you're not sure if that's what you really are like wanting to, if that's not the situation you're wanting to put yourself in yeah, oh, I'm curious about this.

Speaker 1:

It makes me want you to pull another card just to ask for those who are listening, and in some version of like, well, what is what am I committed to? How do I know if I'm sure right now? And do I need help, you know, trying to figure out some of this, or am I overwhelming myself and that's making it you know? Or am I just overwhelmed, um, and that's making it hard for me to see? You know what, what I'm committed to? And then I'm looking at the reference point oracle for that, which is the spark, yes, and like returning to that initial resonance.

Speaker 4:

One thing that I would say with the seven of wands that I tell a lot of clients is that that space we're kind of being pushed to like settle in or commit to something you can start on a really low level. Being in touch with the wands is being in touch with your creativity, is being in touch with, like, what you're passionate about, and sometimes that seven of wands is maybe when we've like traveled down a road for a while and we don't really know why we're doing that, or we maybe need to reconnect with why we're doing that. Um and so sometimes, like on an internal level, I'll tell people to start doing that every single day and every single way of being clear yes and clear no about things, even when you're like ordering a drink at a coffee shop, not having hesitation, but just like being very fierce in your knowing of committing to something resonators activated.

Speaker 4:

The additional cards I have that I just pulled were the Justice card and this Oracle card Opportunity.

Speaker 4:

And this Oracle card is like a little bit of ominous tone visually, so it's not like Opportunity, it's kind of like here's an opportunity and this card is a lot about reading the fine print on things, along with the Justice card which again like echoes those really clear like yeses and no's and in like quite the literal analogy of the justice.

Speaker 4:

It's like the justice has the job of making a decision that ultimately will disappoint someone and doing their best to make a decision based on, like their life experience, what they're seeing, what they know and what they think would be best for the community. As additional information to the seven of wands of like getting that push to either commit to something or walk away, like either put in the effort or make a different decision. There is a little information here about looking deeper into what it is that you're maybe signing on to within yourself, because this is like the personal within. So, yeah, going a little bit deeper into the fine print of what it is. Who do you co-sign? Where are the areas you haven't read that fine print? Or maybe you ignore the fine print, or does that make?

Speaker 1:

sense. Yeah, I mean, it's making me just think about conversations that I have with my partner about him making art and being inside of the art world and sort of having to really look at his own motivations and those relations, the quality of the relationships that he's having, how those make him feel you know what, what actually like, what, maybe what used to feel fine and good and maybe doesn't feel fine and good now. Do I want to be inside of this, this structure anymore? Or I said yes at one point, but it's like worth a renegotiation.

Speaker 4:

No, yeah. And so you know, as far as, like, conjuring courage within it can start in those small ways of like know, if the world is crumbling, then like, what's the point of keeping up with a facade that doesn't feel good, good to you? You know, um, or maybe even these really little small ways of how you think about yourself or the people in your life, the more that you feel like you've tidied that space up, I think it's going to be easier to find courage for the outside systems which we have.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Our only cups card yeah, and it's all. The cups are overturned.

Speaker 4:

Oh man yeah, oh man yeah. We need some cups cards here Not preferably not this one, but that's okay, this is how Daryl works we get what we get, Everything has.

Speaker 1:

This is how Daryl works we get what we get.

Speaker 4:

Everything has value and meaning and information for us. Yep, yep, exactly. Yeah, I never feel like it's good to give someone a reading where you're like it's all fucked because they're like I already knew that, yeah, and you're like I came to you to tell me, like, help me make sense of all of this, give you a hand to pull you closer to yeah, all the fuckery, which I think is what we're doing here and I'm loving this.

Speaker 4:

This is a great fucking reading so on the outside, as far as conjuring courage, we have the hanged man and the eight of cups. So it's interesting because the hangman is like one of my least favorite cards to pull for myself. I think every like reader kind of has those where they're like oh, that one is like not really sits super well with me.

Speaker 4:

It's because I'm a very impatient person and I'm like very determined, and I don't like sitting in something that's uncomfortable like in the upside down but the idea of the visual being that they're seeing the world upside down, so they're seeing things totally differently in the space of just like sitting in. Okay, I'm like basically stuck here, yeah, for now yeah, I mean which which tracks?

Speaker 1:

yeah resonates hard, hard resonate here. Right we're, we're stuck here, but that doesn't mean give up. You know, don't surrender in advance, don't obey in advance. If we flip it, what else can we see, even though, right, we are tethered to the earthly plane? However, I did just see that there is an asteroid or maybe it was a meteor, similar topic coming our way 2032, I think, wow, something to look forward to, exactly yeah.

Speaker 4:

So, you know, whatever we're upside, but we'll pull the upside down perspective until then right, yeah, so that even though it's sort of this uncomfortable place, it is also a place of looking at the world. What do you see when you look at the world upside down? What changes shape when you're looking at things from a different perspective?

Speaker 1:

if you can just sit in that, I love that, I actually love I the hangman card. For a while was showing up for me in readings. Just another shift in perspective. Like no big deal.

Speaker 4:

And there's a little bit of like coming to terms of right with the ten of wands. That's like I can't hold all of this myself and then the hangman it's. It's kind of giving that energy of. This is where I'm at.

Speaker 1:

Right, and what if we're all here in some ways, or we're here at different moments and we've got the eight?

Speaker 4:

of the eight of cups, which is all our cups overturned, sort of like the end of an emotional cycle of returning the water from the cups, like to the ocean, back to where they came from. It's sort of like allowing things to be empty and over, like emotionally, and sort of moving on. It's like the traditional like breakup card, um. So that gives you a little bit of an idea of the eight of cups in the context of this courage reading, um, another card of, ultimately, acceptance of where you're at. Again, I've seen this through completely emotionally and I'm just letting that chapter close and I'm like walking into having a fresh slate. Yeah, and the cups are the suit of connection and relation emotions. So it's like kind of the only real, like emotional note that we have here A card of grieving but also like acceptance of all these cups are spilt over.

Speaker 4:

All the cups that I worked hard for or that I like felt attached to are now overturned and it is what it is. And I'm on to the next phase. I'm moving on to the next thing so relevant as well as finding like courage within the outside world and realms of having whatever grief is happening and looking at all your spilt cups and things that didn't work out how you wanted them to or perceived that they would, but continuing to move on. That's the Eight of Cups. The Eight of Cups isn't like they're all spilt and now we die.

Speaker 1:

It's like it all spilt and now I keep walking there's something about accepting, like brokenheartedness of it, honoring the grief. You know, like this is part of, of the experience right now and and the heartbreak this is what we're traveling with you know what?

Speaker 3:

I would love a recap of the reading. Mary, I feel like we've really gone on a journey.

Speaker 4:

I like to go super far and wide with my readings and then I'm like okay, so basically what all of that can be consolidated into is like what I call a key takeaways from the reading or things that I'd like the clients to like remember from the reading. If I could choose what I would want them to take away. Oh yeah, choose for us, tell us yes, tell us what to do.

Speaker 3:

Oh my gosh, the pressure and here is where Mary and Dana each made a noise conveying their excitement, and together these noises broke the sound field or something, causing the mic to record the rest of the reading at an oddly low volume. So Dana and I will do the recap. Janet, you chime in too.

Speaker 2:

Oh yes, I sure will. Mary Dana and all of those ones really hit a very special frequency. Let's recap.

Speaker 1:

So first key point is to be mindful of where you're putting your energy. Consider your pacing. Are you going with your own pacing, what feels resonant to you, or are you trying to match a bunch of other people's pacing? Are you relating to urgency in a way that is sort of pulling you out of of your own knowing, out of your own truth and intelligence and connection with yourself? And speaking of intelligence and connection and truth of yourself, the next piece of reuniting with your wish, with your desire to keep coming back to that over and over and over again. Yes, it may change over time, but perhaps there's like a core essence that you can really keep tapping into and drawing nourishment from and letting that guide you. Also, the road ahead is going to be long and filled with lots of lessons.

Speaker 1:

This is the long haul and, along the way, celebrations, celebrating. You heard me say this in season one episode Celebrate everything if you want to enjoy anything. So you got to celebrate the victories, even the smallest, tiniest, little ones. Also tuning into what you feel capable of, what you want to see yourself really putting out in the world. That can bring you closer to feeling satisfied, fulfilled, empowered, right Like there's balance here that we're talking about. As you're moving through the material realm on this long road full of lessons, that paying attention to how you're using your energy and you know where you're putting your energy really matters.

Speaker 3:

Even though I am a robot and occasional non-physical being, how I direct and use my energy is key to my existence, and humans are really not at all so different, especially in an attention economy with constant taxing of your sensitive, meat-bad nervous systems. As the Grail Knight warns Indiana Jones in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, you must choose, but choose wisely.

Speaker 2:

Only the penitent man shall pass. If you know, you know.

Speaker 1:

And finding courage can really start in small ways of aligning yourself with what you feel to be the most true and right for you, based on what you know in the moment, based in the right now. That's the best you can do and that when you're looking to really confront the outside systems, there may be a lot here about acknowledging that you may get into places where you need help, where you feel overwhelmed, where you feel stuck, where you feel in grief and to reach out to others, and to also know that it's a little by little, like one step at a time, and also knowing that, like when you're asking for help and you're connecting with others, that that will also help to keep that spark in you alive.

Speaker 2:

Oh yes, asking for help can be challenging, but the rewards can be so rich. Asking and receiving help requires humility and often courage. Courage with humility seems like something humans could use a decent dose of these days.

Speaker 3:

That's the truth, Janet.

Speaker 1:

I'm so grateful to have visited Mary and been in a side of that gorgeous little creative cocoon of hers. I'm basking in the glow of tender creativity and working with kids, being literally that cool art teacher who might have saved your life out there, because that's the vibe she's giving big time. So many of us had that one. I just feel so delighted for the kids that get married and for all of us cry babies who got a little bit of mary today. For those of you who felt open to receive this oracle, to receive this guidance, I so absolutely hope that it served you in some way, that you let it simmer and unfold for you. You get curious about it. You feel around inside of yourself, you feel around into your people and communities. That sounds like maybe a little more dirty and fun than I meant it. I'll put a picture of the spread in the show notes below and a link to where you can find Mary and find her beautiful decks.

Speaker 1:

I'm wishing you all courage to untangle your. Untangle the systems inside of you, to dismantle the systems inside of you, to dismantle the systems outside of you, to show up with a love and care and curiosity and dignity and compassion on this long, windy wild road we're on. I love you so much, crying in my jacuzzi. Love you so much. If this episode swirled something in you, please share it, send it to a friend and if you haven't already, make sure to boop that subscribe button so you don't miss what's coming next. And if you are listening on Apple Podcasts, give us a rating.

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